God warns us about judging others and I think he means it. Those at Holy Love Ministries have openly rejected it. Remember those who walked away from Christ because He told them,; Unless you eat the Flesh of the Son of God, you have no life in you. this was a hard saying for them. Does Bishop Lennon have serious concerns about his pattern of lying that has been documented from his time in Boston where he participated fully in the cover up of literally thousands of sexual abuse cases and which continued here in Ohio? For without charity and unity with the Church, there can be no salvation for Catholics. He is not my Bishop. No less. Ha! They claim numerous miracles are occurring and special blessings are bestowed on all who come. The shrine is on one hundred-plus acres of land, adorned with beautiful statues of Mary, Jesus and many of the saints. 18: 17-18). the 5th chamber is a hidden chamber WITHIN the 4th chamber. Kind of frightening. Wow, is that ever an expose! He has continued this pattern in Boston. NO legitimate apparition in the history of the Catholic Church has EVER told/ordered/directed someone to go outside of the authority of the Church in order to make itself known. I pray for friends of mine that also are addicted to the place and see nothing odd, no internal warnings at all, let alone disobeying the Bishop. Look at the fruits of the bishops catechesis for the last 40 years. In regards to judging authenticity when it comes to mystics and visionaries, obedience is the litmus test of the Church. The people of the Cleveland Diocese fought Bishop Lennon fiercely in order to retrieve parishes sold by him and monies taken by him. A few years ago, I first wrote about Holy Love Ministries, the 83-acre site of Maranatha Springin Ohio. There is no meaning here that we are to condone sin. This does not sound like a unified condemnation story, now does it? One is either Catholic or not. Three bishops have approved of it. Albert Drexel to help you comprehend this idea. Your heart is in the right place but it is seriously misguided. What Bishop would stop Christians from praying the Rosary, Chaplet of Divine Mercy and many Holy prayers there, in pouring rain, sleet, thunderstorms, frigid, & hot temperature together? "Consider how Divine Love and Holy Love made Their Wills one with the Eternal Father. 3) The faithful in the Diocese of Cleveland are admonished against gathering for functions (presumably held by HLM) on HLM property. I pray that one day his eyes will open, but no amount of logic will convince him of the truth. You are missing the forest for the trees. Such is the case with Holy Love. her eyes are so blinded and all I can do is pray and mention it now and then See you there! It doesnt matter what I may or may not want to point out from the decades of messages. This is not to be confused with graces originating from a supernatural occurrence (such as purported apparitions). 3221, you are right. The Holy Spirit will certainly guide each of us if and when we have that sincere Love hopefully Holy Love! Lest this get buried below, here is my response to 3221 re the condemnation of the Bayside events. I will pray for you also. He and a partner formed a corporation and bought hundreds of acres of land through donations. God Bless Eric May Our Good God Bless All Those Who Read This and may their eyes and minds be opened. This Mission stands for the truth of the gospel message of love. Were talking about disobedience as it pertains to the laity who go to Holy Love after the Bishop has condemned and admonished the faithful to cease visiting the place. I mention no names. Just knowing of the disobedience by those who promote and follow Holy Love Ministries is enough to warn off truly faithful Catholics. Bishops have allowed these spiritual perversions and they will answer to God for it. God chose 12 men as disciples later to become priests. This is sad, especially when Catholics have Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament where they visit Him. The error is in hearts that oppose the gospel and the graces which support it here.. Had a friend who could not have a baby. JESUS CHRIST who has given authority to his Church, not to some nameless and faceless commentator on an Internet web site. Well we are in the middle of 2015 and there has been nothing. Give me one example of circular logic. Hmmm! I am willing to bet neither can you. The whole place is deceptive. I am asking about his stands on all things Catholic. The so-called 'Confraternity of the United Hearts of Jesus and Mary' is not an approved association of the Catholic faithful, the alleged apparitions and locutions are not of a supernatural nature, the sacraments are not to be celebrated at the site of Holy Love Ministries, and the Catholic faithful are admonished to cease gathering for May they rest in peace. In his decree of November 11, 2009 Bishop Lennon made it clear that because of a number of issues it was necessary to forbid priests to celebrate the sacraments at the site of the Holy Love shrine and that the faithful are admonished to cease gathering there. Period. Mike. @3221: Lennons letter was not just a simple warning. It follows the precise form of an official condemnation under the Churchs tradition of discerning alleged private revelations. Rather than allow such disappointment to derail them, they can instead take a big step closer to God. Consecration to the Cross means generous acceptanceeven joyfully of all the sufferings that God allows in ones life. Thanks Kevin. When will we learn to listen and obey the Holy Spirit??? Then, when Gods authority on earth the Church speaks against the fraud, a number of otherwise good Catholics get caught in the trap. @3221: Why are you changing the subject to Medjugorje? I have been at HOLY LOVE, about 18 times since 2009 and its another true gift from God. I live less than one mile from where Maureen Kyle-Sweeney was previously receiving messages and visits from heaven. Instead, it is us sinners who ask her to pray for us now and at the hour of our death.. Totus tuus: You indeed are proving the point! You see, you just do not get it. My earliest memory is being on the site and looking at pictures of the sky taken on the property, trying to discover what clouds or images that could be miraculous. As quoted in the Summa, here are some errors in thinking which underlie false obedience, that is, obedience through excess: (1) Church hierarchy is absolute. Saying something is not supernatural in origin is saying that something is not supernatural in origin. whole thing and so can anyone else who wishes to read it: http://www.ewtn.com/Library/NEWAGE/MUGABAY.TXT. Who is to be obedient in this case? By giving their disappointment to God and continuing to walk with him, they acknowledge that his Church is bigger than a single ministry or the claims of any purported visionary. Medjugorie followers did the same with Bishop Zanic there. A group known by the name of "Holy Love Ministries" and also the "Missionary Servants of Holy Love" has been active in the Cleveland area for several years. Bishop Richard Lennon, head of the Cleveland Catholic Diocese, has issued a decree to clergy and laity of the diocese that Holy Love Ministries of Lorain County is officially off limits. You pointed out in your article, Patti, that Holy Love Ministries seems Catholic because the site has statues, rosaries, and Catholic prayers. Just like many others, Im aware of what has been in the mediaand Ive read the letters between Bishop Lennon and Holy Love Ministries as well. Id not heard of it ~ Our Lady of Good Help ~ in Wisconsin. It has never been the Churchs position that the Blessed Virgin Mary needs our prayers. I am not accusing Bishop Lennon of anything. (Oh, and by the way, Holy Love Ministries has one of those miraculous springs. Help me to be Your instrument in the world. The so-called Jesus of these so-called apparitions claims to have a six-chambered heart, despite the fact that there are only four chambers in the human heart. We see in others what we are ourselves. That should give you a clue that you are on the wrong path. The simple fact is that it is not true that an apparition needs to have approval by a bishop to be believed as authentic by the faithful. Our Lady with the bowl in her hand and using the baking of a cake to put forth her message. Above I did state that Bishop Lennon was corrupt. (This link is for how to joinits freehttp://rcspiritualdirection.com/blog/2012/06/10/spiritual-direction-book-club-how-do-i-join-it). These are the pearls that are consistently in evidence at this apparition site. In the same decree he did forbid any priests from saying Mass on HLM property. Being part of a sea of people, all praying the rosary and loving God and His mother, is uplifting to say the least. We learn (in Church history) that St. Athanasius disobeyed Pope Liberius, St. Godefrey of Amiens and St. Hughes of Grenoble disobeyed Pope Pascal 11. Help me to be Your instrument in the world. My loyalty and obedience is to God first. I did. I am so sorry you feel the need to be insulting. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector. According toThe Morning Journalnewspaper of Ohio, Bishop Lennons decree was issued Nov. 11, 2009: Having been directed by the Holy See (in Rome) to act definitively in the matter of the alleged apparitions and having reviewed the theological content of the alleged apparitions to Maureen Sweeney-Kyle and having consulted an expert in this matter, I declare that the alleged apparitions and locations are not supernatural in origin. Lennons decree states he forbid members of the clergy of any ecclesiastical jurisdiction to celebrate the sacraments on the site of Holy Love Ministries. Your statement is wrong if you are asserting that if a bishopeven the bishop of jurisdiction claims that nothing supernatural is happening it equals a condemnation. 3221 believes that St. Then, it becomes a matter of obeying Catholic authority or thinking you know better. Having visited the site unknowingly on a pilgrimage with my Mom (who had been invited by her friends whos parish was going and invited me rather nonchalantly; read, she didnt even bother asking where we would go). Therese of Lisieux ((Doctor of the Church) told her novices Pick up a pin and save a soul. Reading te comments of those who responded to your article gives evidence of the very poor understanding of the mystical theology of the Catholic Faith, as well as an unbalanced and distorted comprehension of what the virtue of obedience is, according to the teaching of the Catholic Church. The question now is, will those that were enthralled with this Shrine, accept Church authority or continue to follow a ministry that has officially been condemned? The Church has spoken on Holy Love Ministries. Bigger trials are coming in the future, Patti. I do not need to. Im still awaiting word from the Mother Teresa Center. We must be vigilant always. This morning I was reading about the first Marian apparition in the U.S. approved by the Church. Her messages are all of holy love, and doing gods will. He was given great responsibilities by the visionary, who claimed they came from Mary herself. Some just cannot get their facts straight! You choose to twist and squirm and find excuses so theres no point in continuing this with you. In all the various approved apparitions throughout the centuries, does the Blessed Mother or Jesus talk of worldly events, the economy, politicians and the U.S. economy? We all waited and watched, thinking that surely this was the prelude. 2 human hearts = 8 possible chambers. ************************************, (11/24/12-BLESSED VIRGIN MARY) Most young people do not really understand the supernatural dimension of Catholicism. Whether or not an organization is under the authority of a diocese it still is free to share Catholic doctrine. the ministry here is unprecedented mother mary says that holy love is one of herfavorite places on earth! I dont understand how people can oppose that, but I know that Satan is doing everything he can to try to stop this Heavenly mission here on Earth. Stay away so you not fall into a deep personal devotion and love for Blessed Mother and and the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Its irrelevant to this topic how many bishops and priests are either outright heretics or at the very least, not being true shepherds. Copyright 2023 Catholic Exchange. I suggest you read Aquinas on obedience instead. As far as being angry or bitter, as I have said, we see in others what we ourselves are. While I was walking on the property not long ago I asked a priest from Nigera why so many priests from around the world are coming here. You know more than the Church if you declare HLM satans work. Much private revelation which is worthy and poignant to these harrowing times is being subdued by erroneous even rash judgments., Such is the case here in this Mission which I have come to defend. I referenced the Sister Magdalena of the Cross post from your website about six hours ago (close to the bottom of this page). Many have been fooled in the past, as what happened in the case of Sister Magdalena of the Cross, who made a pact with the devil for 40 years, convincing and fooling many, including higher Church officials, royals and dignitaries: http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2011/12/sister-magdalena-of-cross-nun-who-made.html. I dont judge them or point fingers, but it is what it is. Now you prove to the contrary and Ill continue discussing with you on this point. There is a consistent argument in these comments concerning the nature of condemnation from admonish/warn. I think it is necessary to delve into this matter. He pledged to obey a church directive to dissolve the corporation. An admonition* is not a dictate. I just read the I feel confident that your heart has hardened to any and all attempts by any of us here, or the Bishop, to common sense and obedience. HLM is doing the job that the bishops should be doing, that is teaching the ancient truths and deep theology of the CCC. Initially, not all were ready to condemn Marino. 7/29/93 from Our Lady: I invite you to comprehend the only thing that keeps a soul from holiness is free will. This is contrary to our faith. I think that this third point is the crux of it all for this person (and others that continue to go to the site). You will be chastised by friends and family for being so true to the faith. Does this actually sound like the Blessed Mother to you: According to a December 5, 1994, fund-raising letter, the spiritual entities that were delivering messages to Maureen wanted three to five acres with options on the surrounding land. The Blessed Mother also wanted a 900 number and was calling out to financial backers for help, Dear children, the hour has come when you need to pool your resources just as the apostles did, all for the greater glory of God, reads a letter mailed to potential donors. The Holy Love messages, as well as, the messages from Medjugorje helps us a lot. If people were inspired or received what they believe to be miracles at this site, then praise be to God! Therefore, a, Superior is not to be obeyed in all things. You will find the Church where the true Faith is. Maybe you should go back and re-read. Yet, as an ecumenical ministry it found time and space in many of its printed materials to rail against the Church. Remaining silent in the face of heresy is one way to be heretical. bob v. So glad you turned your life around. Sad but true. This Page runs by volunteer MSHLs in order to spread the messages from the Heaven that given to a vi Holy Love Ministry | North Ridgeville OH People have been going to this shrine since the early 1990s, drawn by founder Sweeney-Kyles claim that Jesus and the Blessed Virgin Mary and a host of saints are appearing to her with messages. Those interested can read it on the Mystics of the Church website. Bishops, as in the case of England, have led entire countries astrayOur belief is in Christ and his Church, not in the changing opinions of bishops. In March 1992, the Duluth Diocese investigated, and ultimately advised Catholics to stay away. I dont use my emotions to discern. You end your comment by saying the Church is wise enough to reserve judgement the issue of authenticity. I dont understand what youre implying. And again, if you are questioning such an orthodox, fundamental concept it only goes to prove that you are very mixed up. We should always be disposed to believe that that which appears white is really black, if the hierarchy of the Church so decides. St. It is through this door every grace and virtue flows from the Heart of My holy Mother. Here are repeated two points we discussed above. As to the annulment, it is none of our business whether or not she got a declaration of nullity, a declaration of invalidity or whatever. Remember, Holy Love is an ecumenical place, not Catholic. Looking back on that message now, it was supposed to help me in my discernment of my vocation, but the message was general and vague. But I suspect that if the Bishop had used whatever wording this person thinks are proper for a condemnation, s/he still would refuse to obey him because. One person wrote and said her fallen-away Catholic friend that once ridiculed the site became a believer. Neither am I drawn to apparition sites perseeven if I sense that they are authentic.Apparitionseven if genuinedo not fortify the Faith that God has given to me. Your final 2 sentences sent a chill up my spine. And who would invent a message that the Blessed Mother would appear on a particular date and time? It is 3221s responsibility to have the information handy. This is the law of non-contradiction. No way. (Oh, and by the way, Holy Love Ministries has one of those miraculous springs. the teaching of the Church is that Mary is the Mediatrix of all graces; all graces flow through Her Immaculate Heart. Fruits is more relative to the interior life of virtue, as St. Teresa of Avila teaches in her The Interior Castle (Sixth Mansion). GODs revelations strengthen humility, obedience, patience and conformity to His Holy Will. . ..Jesus would embrace this Mission and would never discourage people from coming here to pray. Were people disobedient to believe in her although their bishop condemned her? Bishop Lennon closed those churches without further study and doing a financial analysis, that the Vatican had to interfere. Obedience is how Christ won eternal life for us. HLM is not condemned by the Church. see how the apparitions to father gobbi and sister faustina were treated and all the apparitions of the bmv and u just might, just might see where we are in the present age.. the high clergy treated the lord in a shamful manner and now for the last almost two hundred yrs the visionaries and appearnces of the the bvm are being treated in the way of the intellect because the old deceiver has learned the way of the western civilization is prideful and greedy. The treasure of Holy Love Ministries is that it is teaching the fullness of the Catholic Faith, and this is in opposition to what continues to happenor rather not happenin most Catholic dioceses of the United States.
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